John Smith 1874-1943

1874. John Smith was born 23rd August 1874 at High Street Lockerbie Scotland. PHYL has this b.c.

john-smith-bc

His parents were Henry Smith (watchmaker) and Elisa Bacon married 7th August 1860 in Liverpool.

Interestingly the above b.c. was obtained on the 18/11/1929, 22 months after his daughter, Phyllis, had married JTR Gunn - why did they or John himself, then aged 55- some sort of pension??? - need it??

They were in Lockerbie by 1871 C & must have moved south to Brighton sometime between John's birth in 1874 & 1881.

1881C John Smith, 6, b.Scotland, is living 3 Barrowcliffe Cottages Brighton with his parents & 2 of his siblings. His future wife, Emily Trelfer, is living in 6 Barrowcliffe Cottages in this census

SMITH, Henry	Head	Married	M	42	1839	Watchmaker Finisher	Coventry, Warwickshire
SMITH, Eliza	Wife	Married	F	42	1839	Watchmaker Finisher Wife Silk Weaver	Coventry, Warwickshire
SMITH, Henry	Son	Single	M	10	1871	Scholar	Scotland
SMITH, Amy	Daughter	Single	F	8	1873	Scholar	Scotland
SMITH, John	Son	Single	M	6	1875	Scholar	Scotland

Oliver 1861 & Emily 1868 likely already working - away from home

John Smith had siblings: Oliver Coventry Jun 1861, Emily born 20/6/1868 at 21 Ryley Street Coventry, Henry 1871 Lockerbie & Amy 1873 Lockerbie. Emily died 23/1/1940 Brighton, having lived in Gardner Street. A spinster. No known issue. PHYL has Emily's 1868 b.c.!

1891C. John Smith, 15, b Lockerbie, pigeon fancier, is living High Street, New Shoreham with his mother & 2 siblings

SMITH, Eliza	Wife	Married	F	48	1843	Jewellers Shop Woman	Bilton, Warwickshire
SMITH, Harry	Son	Single	M	20	1871	Groom Servant Domestic	Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
SMITH, Amy	Daughter		F	17	1874	Nurse Servant Domestic	Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
SMITH, John	Son		M	15	1876	Pigeon Fancier	Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland

1891 & 1892. Both his parents likely die

1901C John Smith, 24, pier erector, b Lockerbie, is living 10 Foundry Street Brighton with his wife & 1 son I rather think think he just found work on the pier in this year. With 4 rooms, it seems odd that his wife did not take care of any of her younger siblings, Alice, & probably William & Queenie, who were in Brighton Workhouse with their father, George Trelfer.

His daughter Phyllis told her children that he had worked on the pier!. He also apparently worked on the railway

1911C. John Smith, 33, living 36 Redcross Street Brighton in 4 rooms with his wife & 3children . Parents married 11 years, 4 children, all living

SMITH, John	Head	Married	M	33	1878	General Labourer	Locksby Scotland Resident
SMITH, Emily	Wife	Married11 years	F	36	1875		Sussex Brighton
SMITH, John	Son		M	11	1900		Sussex Brighton
SMITH, Winifred	Daughter		F	8	1903		Sussex Brighton
SMITH, Phylis	Daughter		F	5	1906		Sussex Brighton
SMITH, Leonard	Son		M	0 (3 MONTHS)	1911		Sussex Brighton
EDWARDS, Thomas	Boarder	Married	M	47	1864	Labourer	Kington Magna Dorset
CARTER, William	Boarder	Single	M	40	1871	Labourer	Hampshire N K

"Leonard didn't live long about 9 months from what we'd call probably a cot death today. John was known as Jack. Winifred died young- actually aged 40 in 1943. . She had a foot deformity. There was another sibling Doris born after the 1911C and she had a son whom she called Leonard, after her dead brother. Cousin Leonard is still alive and kicking and lives just outside Newhaven in Sussex"

Leonard C Smith died Brighton Dec 1911

So, 4 children survived childhood, John/Jack, Winifred, Phyllis & Doris

Doris M Smith was born 21/3/1913. She married 1936 Herbert Fuller & had a son Leonard Fuller, Lewes Sep 1936 , still alive in 2013.

Jack Smith 1900 married Nellie V Scott Brighton Dec 1928- she known as Cis- and they had Sylvia V Scott Brighton Jun 1930, still alive 2014.

1928. John Smith, carpenter S R, was still living 36 Redcross Street when his daughter Phyllis married on 28/1/1928

1939 Register 24 Mountfield Road, Lewes

Emily	Smith	22 Oct 1874	Female	Unpaid Domestic Duties	Married	27	2
	John	Smith	23 Aug 1874	Male	Signal Lineman Sr	Single	27	1
	Winifred E	Smith	23 Dec 1902	Female	Tailoress Unemployed	Single	27	3

1943. John Smith died 31st January 1943 at 24 Mountfield Road Lewes, Sussex. Aged 69 . PHYL has this d.c.! - Gaynor copying

1943 His widow, Emily Smith, died 14th March 1943 24 Mountfield Road Lewes. Aged ~68 PHYL has this d.c.! - Gaynor copying Their daughter Winifred also died this year.

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