Eliza Karney 1808 ->1861, maybe 1877
1808. Eliza Karney was born to John Karney & Mary on 20/8/1808 , baptised at St Lukes Finsbury
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1829. Eliza Karney maried Joseph Butt in St Lukes Finsbury on 16/3/1829

1833 ish William Butt was born to Joseph & Eliza in . . . not in Ancestry London baptisms
1837. A porter, living St Johns Street, on 1837Ancestry London baptism record of his daughter Clara Elizabeth
1841C.Joseph Butt , 36, was living Little St George Street, Westminster with his wife, Eliza, 30, & 3 children
| Joseph | Butt | Male | 36 | 1805 | Middlesex, England |
| Eliza | Butt | Female | 30 | 1811 | Middlesex, England |
| William | Butt | Male | 8 | 1833 | Middlesex, England |
| Clara | Butt | Female | 5 | 1836 | Middlesex, England |
| Henry | Butt | Male | 4 | 1837 | Middlesex, England |
1842, A porter, living St Anns Court, on Ancestry London 1842 baptism record of his son John
1851C. Joseph Butt ,41, porter, was living Oxford Market, Marylebone with his wife, Eliza, 41, charwoman, & 3 children
| Joseph | Butt | Head |
Married | Male | 41 | 1810 | Porter | Chelsea, Middlesex, England |
| Eliza | Butt | Wife |
Married | Female | 41 | 1810 | Char woman | St Luke's, Middlesex, England |
| William | Butt | Son |
- | Male | 17 | 1834 | Errand boy | marylebone Surrey, England |
| Henry | Butt | Son |
- | Male | 14 | 1837 | Errand boy | - |
| John | Butt | Son |
- | Male | 10 | 1841 | At home | Middlesex, England |
1861C.Joseph Butt , 54, porterr, was living 14 St james Street, Marylebone with his wife, Eliza, 51, & son William
| Joseph | Butt | Head |
Married | Male | 54 | 1807 | Porter | Kensington, Middlesex, England |
| Eliza | Butt | Wife |
Married | Female | 51 | 1810 | - | City of London, Middlesex, England |
| William | Butt | Son |
Unmarried | Male | 28 | 1833 | Porter | Lambeth, Surrey, England |
1871. A . Joseph Butt, 59,possibly dies Pancras Mar 1871 - -dofb of 1812 somewhat out
1871C. Cannot find him or Eliza in Ancestry or FMP . Joseph would appear to be alive still in July 1866 when his son married
1877. Death of an Eliza Butt 70 in Fulham 1877?? dofb fine here
1881. A Joseph Butt, 74, dies London City Jun 1881. Buried Newham 31/5/1881, thus SHOULD be in 1881C!!