Ann Elizabeth Longhurst 1847-1912

1846/7. She was seemingly born Folkestone. No birth on bmd which would seem to include Folkestone!

August 2014 - now not sure if I have the correct Ann Longhurst here!! 1851 census entry shows this Ann as born Folkestone - once married 1871 & 1881Cs show her born Brighton!! There is a bmd birth of Ann Longhurst Lewes Sep 1845 , but she has a father George, and Ann's 1870 m.c. to Charles Gunn definitely says her father is Charles!!. So I think she just said she was born Brighton Sussex as her parents had spent most of their lives in Sussex and she had grown up with them ~1849-1860 in Brighton

And 1851C, living Garden Street, Lewes.

George Longhurst Head Married Male 33 1818 Harry Trusser
Mary Longhurst Wife Married Female 34 1817 -
William Longhurst Son - Male 10 1841 Scholar
Ann Longhurst Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar
Betsy Longhurst Daughter - Female 1 1850 -
John Bryant Lodger Unmarried Male 26 1825 Gardner Journeyman

1861C

George Longhurst Head Married Male 45 1816 Common Labourer Horsted Keynes, Sussex, England
Mary Longhurst Wife Married Female 46 1815 - Rotherfield, Sussex, England
Ann Longhurst Daughter - Female 15 1846 General Servant Lewes, Sussex, England
Betsey Longhurst Daughter - Female 12 1849 General Servant Lewes, Sussex, England
George Longhurst Son - Male 10 1851 Scholar Lewes, Sussex, England
Henry Longhurst Son - Male 6 1855 Scholar Lewes, Sussex, England
Mary Jane Longhurst Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Lewes, Sussex, England
John Shoesmith Nephew - Male 15 1846 Common Labourer Lewes, Sussex, England
Henry Shoesmith Nephew - Male 11 1850 Common Labourer Lewes, Sussex, England

1851C. Ann Longhurst, 4, is living with her parents, Charles Longhurst & Lucy, & 6 siblings at 3, Lavender Street, Brighthelmstone

LONGHURST, Charles Head Married M 41 1810 Bricklayers Lab
Rudgwick, Sussex  
LONGHURST, Lucy Wife Married F 40 1811
Brighton, Sussex  
LONGHURST, James Son M 14 1837 Scholar
Hilborough, Sussex  
LONGHURST, Henry Son M 12 1839 Scholar
Brighton, Sussex  
LONGHURST, Abel Son M 8 1843 Scholar
Bromley, Sussex  
LONGHURST, Joseph Son M 6 1845 Scholar
Folkestone, Kent  
LONGHURST, Ann Daughter F 4 1847
Folkestone, Sussex  
LONGHURST, Hannah Daughter F 3 1848
Folkestone, Sussex  
LONGHURST, Edward Son M 0 (6 MOS) 1851
Brighton, Sussex

1861C. Probably a servant.

1870. 4/9/1870 Ann Elizabeth Longhurst, 24, father Charles, marries Charles Edward Gunn, 28, at St Nich. Brighton

1871C Ann Gunn, 24, living 132 London Road Brighton . All born Brighton, son 4 mths . A quick birth!

GUNN, Charles Head M 28 1843 Sussex  
GUNN, Ann Wife F 24 1847 Sussex  
GUNN, Charles Son M 0 1871 Sussex

1881C. Ann Gunn, 34, living 25 Fairlight Place Brighton with husband & 5 children

GUNN, Charles Head Married M 38 1843 Fish Dealer
Brighton, Sussex  
GUNN, Ann Wife Married F 34 1847
Brighton, Sussex  
GUNN, Charles Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
Brighton, Sussex  
GUNN, Flora Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar
Brighton, Sussex  
GUNN, Wasmer Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Brighton, Sussex  
GUNN, Annie Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar
Brighton, Sussex  
GUNN, Nellie Daughter Single F 2 1879
Brighton, Sussex

Where is Thomas 1879/80 who appears in the 1891 & 1901Cs ? I think Nellie should read Thomas, as no 'Nellie' born 1878/80 and neither does one die 1881-1891.

Seems to have been a Nathaniel Thomas Gunn baptised to Charles Edward & Ann Elizabeth 9/2/1879 Brighton: he must be the Thomas in 1891C& 1901C - he marries Mary Potter Jun 1901 : his descendants have a DGunn Family tree on Ancestry

Also on Ancestry Parish Baptism records are Annie Louisa 21/1/1877 baptised to Charles Edward & Ann Elizabeth

1881. Her husband, Charles Edward Gunn dies, 2/9/1881, at 5 Fairlight Place but formerly of 132 London Road, aged 40, Brighton. Probate- effects £85 . His widow , Ann Elizabeth Gunn, the sole executrix.

1884/5 .She would seem to give birth to another son, Frederick Gunn: he appears in the 1891C. His father maybe James Blackman whose first wife does not die until 1886!

Frederick likely takes over his step?father's Fish Shop ~ 1935 after James Blackman's retirement or death - not located in BMD

1887 . Ann Elizabeth Gunn, almost 40, marries James Blackman Brighton Jun 1887

1891C. Ann E Blackman, 43, greengrocer, is living 88 Trafalgar St Brighton with James Blackman, her children Westmer 17, Annie L 14 & Thomas 12, plus a child of his, Joseph Blackman, a mysterious Frederick - I thought incorrectly down as Frederick Gunn, but maybe not. He was born 1884 Jun/Dec, 2 + years before she remarried, but 3 years after her husband, Charles Edward died!!: so, who was the father?? . . & James E Blackman, their joint child. :

BLACKMAN, James Head Married M 39 1852 Greengrocer
Brighton, Sussex    
BLACKMAN, Ann E Wife Married F 43 1848 Greengrocer
Brighton, Sussex    
GUNN, Westmer Daughter Single F 17 1874
Brighton, Sussex    
GUNN, Annie L Daughter Single F 14 1877
Brighton, Sussex    
BLACKMAN, Joseph Son M 13 1878
Brighton, Sussex    
GUNN, Thomas Son M 12 1879
Brighton, Sussex    
GUNN, Frederick Son M 6 1885 Scholar
Brighton, Sussex    
BLACKMAN, James E Son M 3 1888 Scholar
Brighton,

1901C. Ann Blackman, 54, is still living 88 Trafalgar St Brighton with her husband, James Blackman, fish merchant, their son James Blackman, & her last legitimate Gunn child, Thomas, a fish salesman . So where is Frederick aged ~16?

BLACKMAN, James Head Married M 49 1852 Fishmerchant
Folkestone, Kent  
BLACKMAN, Ann Wife Married F 54 1847
Brighton, Sussex  
BLACKMAN, James Son Single M 13 1888
Brighton, Sussex  
GUNN, Thomas Son Single M 21 1880 Fish Salesman
Brighton, Sussex

1911C. Ann Elisabeth Blackman, 63 , is living 160 Sackville Road Hove, in 6 rooms, with just James, he a fish merchant, employer, and a servant. She has been married 25 years & has had 8 children, 1 of whom has died . We only know of 2 children ,Frederick 1885 James E 1888 ,after the death of her 1st husband, so she must be including her Gunn children with him, of whom we know 5. .

BLACKMAN, James Head Married M 62 1849 Fish Merchant Sussex Brighton  
BLACKMAN, Ann Elisabeth Wife Married25 years F 63 1848 Sussex Brighton  
MITCHELL, Many Servant Widow F 65 1846 General Servant Domestic

1912, Ann E Blackman dies Steyning Dec 1912, aged 67 - suggesting born 1845 if this age correct . Steyning reg district covers Hove.

Her husband might die as James Blackman , E.Preston aged 78 in 1930. I do not think he is the James E Blackman, aged 91, Brighton 1941, as a James Edward Blackman did exist .

http://www.mybrightonandhove.org.uk/page/brighton_and_hove_revisited tells us that

"102 St. James’s Street became a fishmongers around 1923, when James Blackman set up there.

From 1936 Frederick Gunn fishmonger, took over the shop and remained there for 45 years". He almost certainly the Frederick Gunn aged 6 in 1891C, born ~1884 before James Blackman's first wife had died in 1886, leaving him free to marry Frederick's mother, Ann Gunn . Thus James Blackman certainly the step father of Frederick and very likely his biological father too.

When did Frederick die?- no seeming death on Ancestry 1960-1990!

fredgunn-fish

This Fred 1884 was the younger stepbrother of Charles Edward Gunn 1870- thus a step? great uncle of Vic's, both having the same mother, Ann E Longhurst.

Researching her 2nd husband further back, he married Mary Emma Johnson Brighton 1872: then

in 1881C, at Sussex Street Brighton

James Blackman Head Married Male 29 1852 Greengrocer (Master) Brighton, Sussex, England
Emma Blackman Wife Married Female 29 1852 Ironer Brighton, Sussex, England
Joseph H Blackman Son Single Male 2 1879 - Brighton, Sussex, England
Albert H Johnson Brother In Law Single Male 16 1865 Hawker Greengrocery Brighton, Sussex, England

His wife Mary Emma Blackman dies Brighton Sep 1886 , thus allowing him to marry the widowed Ann Gunn! in 1887

 

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