Mabel Bucknall 1880-1959

This page constructed for Garry Whincop, Napier, N.Z., son of William Hugh Whincop 1915 . I discovered the presence of 4 step siblings of Tony's grandfather,Philip William Whincop, in mid February 2015.

A small commemorative book titled PHILIP - THE LIFE AND TIMES OF A FISHERMAN.  It is one of Garry's collected works  (short stories, letters, tramping articles, travel features, children's stories written for our two grandchildren, and a book in remembrance of his parents, plus images of a selection of my art), that is going to the binder on Monday 1/3/2015 for a 4-part collection to pass on the the family when I am no longer!. 11/3/2015- having received a Dropbox copy of this book, I have been able to add a few more details on this page and that of Philip Whincop 1856 . At Garry's request, I traced the provenance of Mabel, and, following this, the provenance of his maternal ancestors too.

I now have a copy of this book stored on my Computer- for my own memory, to read it, desktop, Local Disk, Users, Christine, Documents, Genealogy, Hill, Whincop

Have now developed a genealogy site for Garry: http://www.chrisgrant.eu/genealogy/whincop/index-whincop.html . Return to Whincop Fanchart

It has given me immense pleasure working with Garry to produce the record of his forebears

1880. Mabel Bucknell was born to William Bucknell, joiner, and wife Mary Brocklesby in Barnetby le Wold, Lincs - they had married 1875 Glandford Brigg

1881C. Mabel Bucknall is living at Marriott Terrace, Grimsby with her parents and 2 siblings

William	Bucknall	Head	Married	Male	31	1850	Joiner	East Halton, Lincolnshire, England
Mary	Bucknall	Wife	Married	Female	27	1854	-	North Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England
Percy	Bucknall	Son	Single	Male	4	1877	-	Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
William	Bucknall	Son	Single	Male	2	1879	-	Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Mable	Bucknall	Daughter	Single	Female	1	1880	-	Lincolnshire, England

1891C. Mabel Bucknall is living at Cross Roads, Stallingborough, Lincs. with her parents and 4 siblings

William	Bucknall	Head	Married	Male	41	1850	Joiner & Wheelwright	East Halton, Lincolnshire, England
Mary	Bucknall	Wife	Married	Female	38	1853	-	North Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England
William M	Bucknall	Son	-	Male	12	1879	Scholar	Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Mabel	Bucknall	Daughter	-	Female	10	1881	Scholar	Lincolnshire, England
Alice	Bucknall	Daughter	-	Female	9	1882	Scholar	Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
Florence H	Bucknall	Daughter	-	Female	7	1884	Scholar	Healing, Lincolnshire, England
Ethel	Bucknall	Daughter	-	Female	0	1891	-	Stallingborough, Lincolnshire, England
Joseph	Smith	Boarder	Single	Male	29	1862	Wheelwright	Humberstone, Lincolnshire, England

** Descendant of William M Bucknall 1879, via Frank M Bucknall 1913 has an Ancestry tree, Fenwick1ds, just 37 people on it, - sent a message 6/3/2015. She and Garry share common ggrandparents, so 2nd cousins.

** Descendant of Ethel Bucknall 1890 has an Ancestry tree, Sutherland, ~ 200 people on it- sent a message 26/6/2016. She, Frances Sutherland, and Garry share common ggrandparents, so 2nd cousins . Also a kemp/goodhand tree with 433 people - maybe Frances got her info from DianaElizabethKnight, the owner of this tree?

1901C. Mabel Bucknall is living at Station House, Stallingborough, Grimsby Lincs. with her parents and 3 siblings

William	Bucknall	Head	Married	Male	51	1850	Joiner & Wheelwright	Lincolnshire, England
Mary	Bucknall	Wife	Married	Female	48	1853	-	Lincolnshire, England
Mabel	Bucknall	Daughter	Single	Female	21	1880	-	Barnetby Le Wold, Lincolnshire, England
Florence H	Bucknall	Daughter	Single	Female	17	1884	-	Healing, Lincolnshire, England
Ethel	Bucknall	Daughter	-	Female	10	1891	-	Lincolnshire, England
John	Bucknall	Son	-	Male	8	1893	-	Lincolnshire, England
Edward	Melton	Aprentice	Single	Male	18	1883	Joiner & Wheelwright	Lincolnshire, England
Edwin	Rimmington	Aprentice	-	Male	15	1886	Joiner & Wheelwright	Hatcliffe, Lincolnshire, England

1906.Mabel Bucknall marries Philip Whincop, widower Grimsby Dec 1906

1911C. Mabel Whincop, 31, is living with her husband and one of her 2 sons at 65 Weelsby St Grimsby, Clee, Lincs.

Philip	Whincop	Head	Married	Male	55	1856	Norfolk Yarmouth	Assisting Ships Husband
Mabel	Whincop	Wife	Married	Female	31	1880	Lincoln Stallingborough	-
Sidney M	Whincop	Son	Son	Male	0	1911	Lincoln Grimsby	-
Kate E	Watson	Visitor	Single	Female	20	1891	Lincoln Grimsby

Their eldest child, Jack Whincop, b.Sep 1907, is staying, aged 3, with his maternal grandparents, William, master joiner, & Mary Bucknall, in Stallingborough 

2 more children were born. Ruby E Whincop Dec 1911 and William H Whincop Dec 1915 .

Why was Sydney given the middle name of Marshall?? The parents of her father, William Bucknall 1850, were William Marshall Bucknall 1818 and Ann Goodhand who had married 1845 Glandford Brigg . And the parents of |William Marshall Bucknall were Samuel Bucknall and Ann Marshall who had married 1814 Scartho . SO, Sydney received this middle name from a gggrandmother Ann Marshall/Bucknall 1793-17/3/1870. She an annuitant in 1851C.

If this sounds like long memories, Mabel actually had an uncle Marshall Bucknall 1855, so she  might have been fond of him . But a Marshall Bucknall was born Jun 1891 and died ,aged 6, in 1897- was he a beloved younger brother?, although his birth was somewhat soon after that of sister, Ellen, registerd Dec 1890, so he might just have been a cousin. Her parents seem to have had their last child, John, ~1893. And the dead Marshall was not a brother- 1911C states her parents had had 7 children, all still alive

1915. Her husband was commissioned in the Royal Navy on 21/1/1915. Captain of the Silanion , this being converted to a minesweeper

1916. .Philip Whincop, 60, died in Newhaven Military Hospital . He was buried Cleethorpes Cemetery on 18/3/1916 . Recognised as a Commomnwealth War Grave . He died, address 255 Brereton Avenue, Cleethorpes,, aged 60, at the Military Hospital, Newhaven Sussex, on 13/3/1916.. He died of Arterial Scheloris and heart failure

His wife, Mabel, received the following telegrams and letters

Their youngest son, William Hugh, was only a few months old. . Probate of £437.

1918-1925 . MABEL and her family were left in the same position as were many other Cleethorpes and Grimsby families; they simply had to adapt to life without the bread-winner, and with food rationing, and with all the other post-war challenges.  There were the usual activities of course; school, Weelsby Road Wesleyan Sunday School, family occasions, the markets and shops, parks, the pier, the beach and the like. The Whincops were a happy family.  But, were there better opportunities for the children further afield?  Mabel wondered.   

     In far-off New Zealand, in the small rural town of Marton, at a meeting of the Marton Farmers Union, it was suggested that a memorial fund be started for the purpose of helping the dependents of seamen who had died or had been injured keeping the sea-lanes open during the war.  The sea-lanes had made New Zealand farmers rich by the end of hostilities.  The outcome was that over 2,600 wool-growers donated 237,000 pounds towards setting up an agricultural college to educate the sons of British seamen. 

 And so the Flock House scheme was established.

There were good people and organisations in Britain to help and support the families of fallen servicemen.  Mabel made enquiries.  Here was a chance to make a fresh start.  She enrolled her two eldest sons in the Flock House scheme and decided that the whole family should emigrate to New Zealand. 

Flock House was an agricultural and farm training school near Bulls, which operated from 1924 to 1987. It was established for the training of young men, and later women, who were the offspring of British seamen who had been killed or wounded during World War One. Boys and girls were selected by an Advisory Committee in London, assisted by the New Zealand High Commission. Those meeting the criteria were offered free passage from Britain, clothing, pocket money, and six months (later one year) training at Flock House. Boys and girls were trained in a wide range of farming practices and domestic skills, with the aim of them eventually becoming farmers.

Flock House had been built in 1908, 14 km southwest of Bulls on the north bank of the Rangitikei River. It was opened for trainees by the Governor-General, Lord Jellicoe, on 19 July 1924. Initially the Flock House farm was just over 1000 acres, but in the next ten years, 8000 acres were purchased.

By 1932, 637 young men and 118 young women had emigrated from Britain under the Flock House Scheme.

 1925 The upshot was that Jack Whincop and Sydney Whincop were brought to New Zealand by the New Zealand Sheepowners' Acknowledgment of Debt to British Seamen Fund.  John,17, and Sydney 14, travelled out on 3/4/1925 on the Corinthic from Southampton to Wellington, their address being 71 Highfield Avenue, Grimsby

1925 Mabel Whincop followed them 4 months later with her 2 youngest children - did Philip 1880 keep in touch with her?

. Mabel, 45, Miss R, 13, and Master W, 9, followed on the Athenic, also from Southampton on 14/8/1925, their address being Old Market Place Grimsby

The threesome arrived at the Port of Auckland on the twenty-third of September 1925. 

Mabel with Ruby and Hugh, ~1922?

  The family settled in Napier. 

1936. Mabel Whincop was living Napier Terrace with 2 sons

1938 Mabel Whincop, 58, was travelling to Auckland in 1938, she 'independent' of 25 Springfield Ave, Aldershot?- so she must have come back to visit friends and relatives . Her father died in 1932, her mother maybe in 1930

In the fullness of time the four Whincop children married.  Jack married Letitia Lowe, Sydney married Mary (Peggy) Harvey in 1936, , Ruby married Len Morrison and Hugh married Lettie Harvey, a sister of Peggy, in 1939. So, 2 brothers married 2 sisters

Here is Mabel, in the centre of the photograph,
in 1953, at 26 May Avenue, Napier,
surrounded by her family.
In front from the left: Jack, Ruby, Letitia, Jill, Pam, Robin, Tony, Peggy, Lettie.
At the rear from the left: Garry, Hugh, Philip (obscured), Harvey.
Not in the photograph: Sydney (Syd) and Ronnie.

1959.Mabel Whincop died 23/7/1959 . She had suffered from Parkinson's disease for some time and was in St Mary's home, Finnis Lane, Napier. She was buried in Wharerangi Cemetery, Naper

Sydney Marshall Whincop died 1992, Auckland

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