Martha Pole ~1800-1872

 

1823-1831 Martha Pole married Bernard Rice , probably in Ireland. Very unlikely Martha Powell, Macroom 1809, bapt. to an Edward Powell - this from McCourt family tree - s- now in email contact with her. Several Ancestry trees give her as Martha Powell, but the 1831 IGI entry for the baptism of her first child states Pole- possible the 1838-1853 state b.cs. for her children born then give her as Martha Powell

Descendants- Lindsey, McCourt Ancestry tree - of his son John Rice 1835 think he may have had brothers John ~1799, Owen ~1802 and Luke~1801: these 3 all in Louth? 1841C. I doubt/doubted the last 2 as these names not given to any of Bernard's sons .

By 1831 Martha & Bernard are in Market Rasen, then in Louth by 1835. .

1837. Thomas Rice was born Louth Dec1837 to Bernard/Bryan/Barney Rice and Martha Pole, who would have married ~1830, maybe back in Ireland, although 1841C does not give Ireland as Matty's birthplace . This b.c would confirm Martha's maiden name, but would not tell us from where they came in Ireland

1841C. Bryan Rice, 35 - ages rounded down! - , hawker, is living with his wife and 4 children in Spring Gardens Louth

Bryan Rice Male 35 1806 Ireland  
Matty Rice Female 30 1811 -  
Mary Rice Female 10 1831 Lincolnshire, England  
John Rice Male 6 1835 Lincolnshire, England  
Thomas Rice Male 3 1838 Lincolnshire, England  
Barry Rice Male 1 1840 Lincolnshire, England

Barny & Martha had : Mary 1831- 1876, baptised 19/1/1831 in Market Rasen RC to Brian Rice and Matty Pole - IGI, marrying Mooney in 1851, John 1835- descendants Lindsay McCourt, email contact, Thomas 1837, Barry/Barney/Bernard 1840-1873 , Bridget 1843 & Martha A 1853. .

1851C. Barney Rice, 50, ag labourer, is living with his wife and 5 children in Spring Gardens Louth . Also a niece with her son. Mary born Market Rasen other 4 children born Louth

Barney Rice Head Married Male 50 1801 Agr Labourer Ireland  
Martha Rice Wife Married Female 55 1796 - Ireland  
Mary Rice Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1831 Servt Lincolnshire, England  
John Rice Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Agri Labourer Louth, Lincolnshire, England  
Thomas Rice Son Unmarried Male 12 1839 Agri Labourer Louth, Lincolnshire, England  
Barney Rice Son - Male 10 1841 Agri Labourer Louth, Lincolnshire, England  
Bridget Rice Daughter - Female 8 1843 Scholar Louth, Lincolnshire, England  
Catherine Stinson Niece Married Female 27 1824 Ag Lab's Wife Ireland  
Michael Stinson - - Male 2 1849 - Moulton, Lincolnshire, England

Cannot find a Stinson marriage to a Catherine, not the birth of Michael!!. Nor can I find either of them in 1861C!

1856. His brother John got married to Mary Ann Avey in St James' C of E in Gt Grimsby, he, Thomas, was a witness, his mark. Also sister Bridgit, who seemed to sign her name, as did John - West Ancestry Family Tree . John Rice died in 1904, leaving £1071, his wife Mary Ann Rice/Avey the executor- she died 1916. .

1861C. Bernard Rice, 58, hawker, says married, lodger, is living with 2 sons but no wife, at 30 Kidgate Louth .

William Kayss Head Married Male 44 1817 Bricklayers Labourer Ireland Ballinhoy  
Ann Kayss Wife Married Female 45 1816 - Ireland Ballinhoy  
Robert Kayss Son - Male 17 1844 Status Apprentice Louth, Lincolnshire, England  
Bridget Kayss Daughter - Female 15 1846 House Servant Louth, Lincolnshire, England  
John Kayss Son - Male 11 1850 Scholar Louth, Lincolnshire, England  
Ann Kayss Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Louth, Lincolnshire, England  
John Roney Lodger Married Male 62 1799 Hawker Ireland Newry  
Bernard Rice Lodger Married Male 58 1803 Hawker Ireland Conway  
Thomas Rice Lodger Unmarried Male 23 1838 Hawker Louth, Lincolnshire, England  
Bernard Rice Lodger Unmarried Male 21 1840 Hawker Louth, Lincolnshire, England  
John Hunt Lodger Unmarried Male 27 1834 Hawker Ireland Conway

Conway Ireland does not exist!!. Could possibly read Cousey??.

His wife, Martha Rice, 60, married, is living with daughters Bridget Rice 18 and Martha A Rice 8 in Pincushion Square, Gt Grimsby, son John Rice, 25, married and daughter Mary Mooney, 30, are living in the same square, on the previous census page. Mistranscribed as Martha Rea on FMP. I cannot find a Bmd birth entry for Martha, her supposed- but unlikely, she would be ~52 at the birth - daughter.

So she has left Louth 1851-1861, likely in 1861, to be near her children, and that her husband follows on from Grimsby soon afterwards

Martha Rea Wife Married Female 60 1801 - Corry, Invernessshire, Scotland  
Bridget Rea Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1843 - Louth, Lincolnshire, England  
Martha A Rea Daughter - Female 8 1853 - Louth, Lincolnshire, England

Her birthplace actually reads as Cosey, Ireland - so a large mistranscription here!!. No such place as Cosey!!- similar to the Conway written for her husband !

1868. Her husband, Bernard Rice, 64, dies Caistor Dec 1868. The Caistor district includes Grimsby but not Louth, so he obviously followed Martha to Grimsby after the 1861C. . Unsurprisingly, no probate!

1871C. Bernard has died . The 1872 d.c would prove that the below Martha is our Martha Rice here - the informant should be one of her children, and should say who was her husband- but fairly confident this is she .

Martha Rice 70, receiving parish aid, East Street, Gt Grimsby

Martha Rice Head - Female 70 1801 - Ireland

1872. Martha Rice, 64, dies Caistor Jun 1872 - would suggest a birth of ~1808, but censuses indicate ~1801

 

 

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